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Postby werd » Wed Nov 11, 2015 5:52 pm

if we are announcing themes vh and I are ready to announce ours

it will be

Aztecs vs. Conquistadors

technically the allies of the conquistadors because it makes no sense that conquistadors would be able to disguise themselves as aztecs

I think thats all we can say at this point

oh and that it will be wild, we can say that too
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Postby Catullus » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:05 pm

damn. def want to play that when HP fun times are done :D
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Postby jimmy fallon » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:16 pm

So great. Games are the best
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:23 pm

thanks jimmy
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Postby mikey » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:24 pm

also make sure you modify the weight values if you modify the positions abilities. also be sure to weigh items appropriately
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Postby internetfriend » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:25 pm

thanks jimmy
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Postby Alice » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:30 pm

universe wrote:Someone point me to a resource on how to build/balance these games. I have... ideas.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/81173/reccommended-werewolf-balance-guide-web-front-end

Here are the actual cards which are a good basic guideline for role values:
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Postby internetfriend » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:33 pm

uhhh you guys should DEFINITELY do a game with some campy-ass dracula monsters
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Postby surly » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:33 pm

lots of lazy german and eastern european accents, coming right up!
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Postby surly » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:33 pm

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Postby internetfriend » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:33 pm

american teen frankensteins
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Postby death is my amigo » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:34 pm

My game was pretty unusual and the weights reflect that, but this is what my role creation sheet looked like:

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Some of that may be out of date to what I actually did, certainly some of the names are, but I'm just trying to show how I was like "eh I think this rule is equivalent to this, twice as impactful as this one, a little less than this one," etc

It's all subjective
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Postby death is my amigo » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:37 pm

Eg looking back, def underweighted best/worst dudes
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Postby sevenarts » Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:47 pm

surly wrote:lots of lazy german and eastern european accents, coming right up!


Uh now might be a good time to mention that my game is gonna be set in the area of Romania formerly known as Transylvania. Campy accents highly encouraged.
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Postby palmer eldritch » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:03 pm

transylvania, sounds like a nice place
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Postby lordofdiapers » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:08 pm

Vetty goot
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Postby sevenarts » Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:57 pm

Luke wrote:The basic list is

+7 Seer
+4 Apprentice, Witch, Magician
+3 Hunter, Diseased, Martyr, Tough Guy, Aura Seer, Priest, Bodyguard, PI, Prince
+2 Troublemaker, Ghost, Mayor, Mason, Idiot
+1 Villager, Spellcaster, Tanner, Cult Leader,Old Hag
0 Hoodlum, Old Man
-1 Lycan
-2 Doppelganger, Pacifist
-3 Cupid, Drunk, Cursed, Sorcerer
-5 Lone Wolf
-6 Werewolf, Minion
-7 Vampire
-8 Wolf Cub

You want to get it at 0 or as close to 0 as you can. If you've got completely new ideas, try to extrapolate off of these numbers.


One more thought on balance that's occurred to me: we should probably make allowances for the rules being used as well. We've always played games where accurate or 99% accurate roles are announced on death, which benefits the village; if roles aren't announced or are often incorrect, that tips the balance towards evil. We've usually played with a pretty precise count of what roles are being used, which also benefits the village. In sleigh's game, with a fuzzier role list, we definitely saw some instances where that tipped the balance towards evil; other variants reveal even less about the roles in the game and are even more evil-friendly. I suspect the usual HPN rules for the games we've played so far should probably lean towards a slight negative score on the role balance, just because the rules tip the scale towards the village.
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Postby lordofdiapers » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:46 pm

Man

That would be




Faces vs. Heels
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Postby lordofdiapers » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:56 pm

Man I have some ideas already
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Postby VHB » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:57 pm

surly wrote:lots of lazy german and eastern european accents, coming right up!


Or Valley accents if we go Lost Boys like bluemoon wanted

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WCW vs NWO has the right paranoia/hostile takeover vibe for a Werewolf Game. Hang someone and discover whether they had an NWO t-shirt on underneath all along. Wolves put "NWO" on their victim in black spraypaint at night, etc.
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Postby werd » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:21 pm

wouldn't "forced to tap" take the place of killed for the wrestling one?
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Postby lordofdiapers » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:33 pm

Yeah WCW vs. nWo is a great idea
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Postby surly » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:34 pm

only problem is people will want to pick nWo guys even though they're not supposed to
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Postby lordofdiapers » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:34 pm

My first ever screen name on AOL was johnnWo4lyfe
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Postby surly » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:34 pm

also i call randy savage and i will flying elbow anyone who tries to say otherwise
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Postby VHB » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:35 pm

"_____ was hit over the head with a steel chair. He was NWO 4 Life."
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Postby lordofdiapers » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:49 am

Oh shit it just occurred to me that if I did this I would get to be Vince McMahon
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Postby surly » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:54 am

but then nobody would be able to post the it was me austin gif
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Postby surly » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:55 am

also if it's wcw you're ted turner
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Postby lordofdiapers » Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:56 am

Or Bischoff but I don't care I'd still be Vince
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