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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:17 pm

gazedo wrote:it would be kind of fun if we picked four nationally available beers of the same style and blind taste tested them the same week or something and gave them a hipinion QBT ranking.


I am really into this idea.
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:18 pm

jalapeño ranch wrote:DWB, did you pick up any Goodie PIls from Highland Park? If you haven't yet you should swing by and grab a glass of Goodie Barrel, their barrel fermented version. Pretty solid.


I haven't been to HPB in a minute, sadly. However my work's new office is like two blocks down on Spring St. so I'll be there later this week/early next week to try 'em. (If they're still around.)
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Postby noiseandpop » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:38 pm

can't wait for this to hit distro. just lemme drink all the pils
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Postby gazedo » Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:48 pm

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gazedo wrote:what is everyone's summer holiday beer of choice? i think i might go solid gold today.


We had the Threes Brewing People Power pilsner they did the for ACLU. Was solid. Did anyone else have a People Power beer yet? Seems like a cool idea (lots of.breweries commit to brewing a beer that name, share proceeds with ACLU)


Highland Park Brewery did a people power Brut lager. It was pretty good, although I'm not really into the Brut beer thing.
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Postby brent » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:51 pm

deadwolfbones wrote:
gazedo wrote:it would be kind of fun if we picked four nationally available beers of the same style and blind taste tested them the same week or something and gave them a hipinion QBT ranking.


I am really into this idea.

you know i'd be down for it.
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:32 pm

Ok, so what style first?
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Postby gazedo » Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:05 pm

What breweries do we get all over the country? Sierra Nevada, laguanitas, Firestone, new Belgium, Oscar blues, toppling Goliath, victory, Deschutes, stone, founders, cigar City, allagash, anchor ??? Other (worthwhile) ones?
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Postby deadwolfbones » Thu Jul 05, 2018 9:01 pm

I don't think Toppling Goliath or Cigar City are really nationwide yet.

I think Brooklyn is nationwide? Maybe Modern Times? Avery?
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Postby warmjets » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:35 am

Pilsner blind taste tests are fun
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Postby what the schmuck » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:50 am

gazedo wrote:What breweries do we get all over the country? Sierra Nevada, laguanitas, Firestone, new Belgium, Oscar blues, toppling Goliath, victory, Deschutes, stone, founders, cigar City, allagash, anchor ??? Other (worthwhile) ones?


ones that probably arent worth mentioning but have a large footprint: Brooklyn, Ballast Point, Sam Adams, and Breckenridge
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Postby jbiz » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:54 am

deadwolfbones wrote:I don't think Toppling Goliath or Cigar City are really nationwide yet.

I think Brooklyn is nationwide? Maybe Modern Times? Avery?


firestone, deschutes, allagash, MT, and TG are definitely not nationwide

bells, boulevard, southern tier, and ballast point are all pretty big too but i think SN, rogue and new belgium are probably the closet to fully nationwide?
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Postby shankly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:55 am

Sam Adams would probably be interesting in a blind test. I don't really keep up with them, but they've always done lagers pretty well and i'm guessing their recent IPAs would probably be in the ballpark of the other national brands. At the very least i'm not familiar enough with their lineup to immediately identify their beers (unless they end up being really really bad)
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Postby shankly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:57 am

Dogfish is probably nationwide too, but i'm not sure if they have any beers without 15 different adjuncts at this point
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Postby brent » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:00 am

don't forget rogue (lol)
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Postby shankly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:13 am

anyway, i'm down to start with lagers or pilsners. maybe:

lagers:
Sierra Nevada Summerfest
Founders Solid Gold
Ballast Point Longfin
Brookyln Lager

pilsners:
Victory Prima Pils
Sierra Nevada Nooner
Oscar Blues Yella Pils
Lagunitas Pils
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Postby chandler » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:21 am

very jealous of the beers maine portlanders get to drink on the reg. was able to hit up bissell bros, foundation, and austin street

here's a pretty picture of austin street's offset DIPA. it tastes as good as it looks:

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Postby ecto » Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:26 am

long shot but any boarders going to https://www.vermontbrewers.com/festival ... burlington in two weeks?
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Postby gazedo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:55 pm

shankly wrote:anyway, i'm down to start with lagers or pilsners. maybe:

lagers:
Sierra Nevada Summerfest
Founders Solid Gold
Ballast Point Longfin
Brookyln Lager


I'd vote lager.

I think we would have to include Boston lager.

Do people get ska Mexican logger?
Or Firestone lager?
Kona longboard?
Bells lager of the lakes?

How many should we pick? Somewhere in the 4-6 range? I like the idea of trying to be a bit geographically diverse in our picks.
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Postby shankly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:05 pm

pretty sure Kona is fairly widely available; Looks like Bells should be everywhere except NorCal and the Pac Northwest.

I haven't seen Firestone Lager around yet but the rest of their lineup is here. Hardly ever see Ska on the east coast with any regularity.

4-6 makes sense to me; especially if i can find them all at a place that sells singles
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Postby gazedo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:39 pm

ok, are people on board with a blind lager tasting tentatively including:

Sierra Nevada Summerfest
Founders Solid Gold
Ballast Point Longfin
Brookyln Lager
Kona Longboard
Boston Lager

happy to cull a couple if lots of people don't have access to buying singles.
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Postby brent » Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:45 pm

I don't get Brooklyn but I can just sub something else in (Firestone probably)
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Postby gazedo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:07 pm

Now that you mention it, I'm not actually sure we get Brooklyn either.

We could just do the other 5?
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Postby shankly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:29 pm

yeah, as long as we have a core of 4 or so beers that everyone can get, i'm fine with padding out the rest of the tasting with locals/out-of-market stuff to get some additional perspectives.

finding fresh German lagers is kind of a challenge but it'd be cool to throw a real helles into the mix
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Postby deadwolfbones » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:13 pm

I think it would make sense to do a longlist of beers with near-national distro and then each boarder grabs 4 that are available where they are.

Then we collect ratings accordingly and those with the fewest ratings are considered outliers and cut from the final rankings.
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Postby deadwolfbones » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:14 pm

And shankly, I think doing a separate one for wide distro German or Belgian or whatever beers would be fun, but mixing up US and foreign brews probably isn't the best idea.

I'd love to do a blind test of Belgian tripels or quads, for instance.
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Postby shankly » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:37 pm

yeah, i didn't mean imports in the actual field for our tasting purposes; there's just too much variance. might grab a spaten or something just to see how it tastes after a bunch of american lagers though.

i'd be totally down for belgian blind tasting next. i feel like i always enjoy a quad but never have a reason to buy one.
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Postby deadwolfbones » Fri Jul 06, 2018 3:39 pm

Here's an American craft lager longlist:

Firestone Lager
Bells Lager of the Lakes
Sierra Nevada Summerfest
Founders Solid Gold
Ska Mexican Logger
Cigar City Tampa-Style Lager
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Kona Longboard
Deschutes Pacific Wonderland
10 Barrel Pub Beer
Odell Colorado Lager
Hopworks HUB Lager
Jack's Abby House Lager
Ballast Point Longfin Lager
Anchor California Lager
Brooklyn Lager
Narragansett Lager
Sixpoint Alpenflo Helles
Toppling Goliath Dorothy's New World Lager
Upland Champagne Velvet
Stoudt's Gold Lager
Great Lakes Dortmunder Gold
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Postby Fullscreen » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:23 pm

i'd suggest adding a pilsner urquell or krombacher or something to the test as a baseline.

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Postby gazedo » Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:43 pm

Fullscreen wrote:i'd suggest adding a pilsner urquell or krombacher or something to the test as a baseline.

*sorry, thread moves fast.


lets save the pilsners for a separate tasting at a later date.
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Postby Fullscreen » Fri Jul 06, 2018 6:09 pm

anyway i feel like pilsners are getting more love around here than they were a couple years ago and i approve of this development.
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