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Postby dr. badvibes » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:04 pm

number none wrote:man you just reminded of the scene where David arrives at the planet and all the dumbass Engineers are just looking up at him in slack-jawed wonder

I really fucking hate the Engineers

having subjected myself to that only last night, i must propose correcting "slack-jawed wonder" to "excited, reverent anticipation (slack-jawed)"

they actually wave to the ship, some docking cradle hovers out to get it, they gather in the middle of town to welcome it... to welcome this formerly dry-docked ship that was hijacked and is making an unscheduled return

and when david does his bombs they all come off, like, special impressive-CGI bomb racks and fall through the bomb door. was this ship a bomber? are these idiot bumpkin engineers waving to an unannounced, non-communicative bomber that suddenly parked above their town?
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Postby Rhodes » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:06 pm

Perhaps my dad was right all along re: the stupidity of engineers.
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Postby dr. badvibes » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:54 pm

Fullscreen wrote:prometheus really sucks.

1hr into the rewatch and it's even worse than i remembered

it still kills me that this team of "scientists" sent on the most important mission of discovery in history act with less aplomb and discipline than any 12 people selected at random from a mall food court at 1:30pm on a saturday
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Postby spix et chicho » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:56 pm

dr. badvibes wrote:any 12 people selected at random from a mall food court at 1:30pm on a saturday


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Postby Science » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:32 pm

Finally watched Covenant.

Objectively, it might be worse that Prometheus.

Just so sloppy. I think this is the first time I felt pity for a film.
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Postby Comrade Jeb » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:48 pm

i'm gonna go back and read the thread after i post this, but i watched this a couple days ago as a big fan of prometheus, and was really let down. i didn't have the highest expectations going into it because i wanted an actual prometheus sequel, and this felt like a studio-mandated vhs-slasher level alien flick haphazardly constructed around a film ridley scott made about two android michael fassbenders. i mean, i couldn't have been more unimpressed in a literal sense of the word by any of the crew members, particularly the ripley substitute, who did nothing and seemed to feel nothing. i thought the flute scene was the best fucking scene in the whole movie, so i dunno. i have a lot of ranty feelings about this movie tho.
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Postby Science » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:13 pm

Why did David assume Walter loved Danny? They had no meaningful interactions the whole movie. I don't think they even spoke to each other in front of David.

Why in the Engineers' ship is Shaw's recording still scrambled? Are all the holograms just very poor quality? Have we seen a working hologram in either movie?

Where did the second xenomorph come from? Wasn't Oram the only one to get a facehugger?

How could they just leave David and Walter's fight unresolved? Did Walter come around? Did David get the upperhand?

Just so many holes.
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Postby light rail coyote » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:40 pm

yeah i watched a leak of the bluray this weekend (didn't see it in theaters because i'm perpetually broke and lol if ridley scott thinks i'm gonna pay money for this after prometheus) and it's almost impressive how well this held up to the negative hype.

the first hour-ish before the action starts is fine if only because the locations are gorgeous and the plot set up is mostly just whatever but once the survival stuff starts it immediately goes to hell and never recovers. i liked the alien in the field at night and thought it was relatively well-done chaos but i can't think of a single other thing i liked about the movie. fassbender was good but the way they used him was so awful that it completely canceled out and the "twist" with david killing walter was so obvious and dumb.

i think both of these prequels are really wonderful examples of why not every franchise needs a dense mythology and an origin story. i haven't gone back and read the thread, so i'm guessing others have said this, but there's literally no need for a xenomorph creation story. the idea that the xenomorph is just particularly lethal wild animal that's just out there in the universe surviving by destroying whatever it comes into contact with is a million times more compelling than the idea that it's this magical creature with cosmic significance or some shit. it's also easier for suspension of disbelief because the life cycle is so logical and simple that you can just roll with it as opposed to this completely convoluted nonsense that seems to have no consistent internal logic or coherence.

shit movie
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Postby warmhouse » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:43 pm

my housemate worked on this. i have props from it in my house. AMA.
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Postby number none » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:45 pm

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Postby warmhouse » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:47 pm

it was fun to watch him go to work all excited at first and then start coming home being like "hmm... this movie may suck"

spoiler: the new pacific rim is worse
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Postby RIXX » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:47 pm

warmhouse wrote:my housemate worked on this. i have props from it in my house. AMA.


do you know what he did on set? jw cuz i know the DP, it's a close friend's dad
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Postby fuckles » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:49 pm

what props are they
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Postby Seamus » Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:51 pm

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Postby palmer eldritch » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:04 pm

did Michael play a little bit of the flute scene on each of a hundred different flutes to give away to the crew like when a president signs an important bill with a lot of pens
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Postby marble » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:14 pm

david playing the flute with the incense burning was v mystic bro and cool as heck
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Postby dr. badvibes » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:17 pm

Mr. Science wrote:Why did David assume Walter loved Danny? They had no meaningful interactions the whole movie. I don't think they even spoke to each other in front of David.

Why in the Engineers' ship is Shaw's recording still scrambled? Are all the holograms just very poor quality? Have we seen a working hologram in either movie?

Where did the second xenomorph come from? Wasn't Oram the only one to get a facehugger?

How could they just leave David and Walter's fight unresolved? Did Walter come around? Did David get the upperhand?

Just so many holes.

the hologram in Promethus made me so sad and angry

what the fuck was it supposed to be? security footage that plays back in 3D across/within the actual ship-space as whatever it captured? are the engineers infantile fucking idiots?

david vs. walter isn't so much unresolved as an "if we need it" cliffhanger, imo, they'll bring back walter for the rescue mission
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Postby warmhouse » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:20 pm

nonchalant wrote:
warmhouse wrote:my housemate worked on this. i have props from it in my house. AMA.


do you know what he did on set? jw cuz i know the DP, it's a close friend's dad

just random set dressing, some running for the art dept too i think.

there's a bunch of weyland stuff, the same patches that they're wearing on the front of their shirts here he has on his backpack.

i cant find a link to it but there are a wall of plastic shelves in the medical bay and those are all just in my house now which is weird. stickers that lined the walls of the ship like AUTHORISED ACCESS ONLY.

its all just stuff that was on its way to the tip that he kept anyway, but there's one hero prop he still has. hint: its one of those sharp egg things that fassbender holds.

ridley scott said "that looks good" to something he did, fassbender looked at him and smiled once, he met scott eastwood too and has a christmas card from him. or was that pacific rim?
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Postby jca » Mon Aug 14, 2017 7:47 pm

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Postby giant_turtle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:46 pm

Finally watched this last night. Huge piece of shit. Slightly less smelly than Prometheus, but not by much.

After the characters all revealed themselves to be complete idiots once again, I was so fucking in for Michael Fassbender playing the flute and making out with himself. Like holy shit are we really going to spend twenty minutes playing the flute in the middle of a 2hr slasher movie?? "Don't let the bed bugs bite" omfg. Possibly our finest actor.
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Postby giant_turtle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:48 pm

Also @ the question of the second xenomorph, David (impersonating Walter) injected Demian Bichir with the pathogen as soon as they took off and the other crew was distracted.
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Postby easy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 3:53 pm

it was always fun to have to run an errand for ridley and to show up at like a bookstore or something and pay with a card that said RIDLEY SCOTT on it

more often than not there'd be a big to-do where the person's manager would have to come and approve the transaction
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Postby Science » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:08 pm

giant_turtle wrote:Also @ the question of the second xenomorph, David (impersonating Walter) injected Demian Bichir with the pathogen as soon as they took off and the other crew was distracted.


Doesn't the pathogen result in the white xenomorph while the classic black xenomorph have to be introduced through a facehugger?

I don't know why I'm expecting them to adhere to their own internal logic at this point. Fuck this movie.
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Postby kirito » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:21 pm

it's cool when david cuts his hair and sings the same song peter o'toole sings before they attack the train in lawrence of arabia
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Postby giant_turtle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:41 pm

Mr. Science wrote:
giant_turtle wrote:Also @ the question of the second xenomorph, David (impersonating Walter) injected Demian Bichir with the pathogen as soon as they took off and the other crew was distracted.


Doesn't the pathogen result in the white xenomorph while the classic black xenomorph have to be introduced through a facehugger?

I don't know why I'm expecting them to adhere to their own internal logic at this point. Fuck this movie.

Oh uhhh maybe it was... um... harvested facehugger eggs straight into the bloodstream???
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Postby giant_turtle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:42 pm

The way that white xenomorph stood up all straight and docile was somethin though.

More shit like that and less cowboy hats and vague religious convictions plz.
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Postby giant_turtle » Tue Aug 15, 2017 4:43 pm

Jesus they must've shown that shot of the severed head floating in the fountain 5 fuckin times.
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Postby Science » Tue Aug 15, 2017 5:24 pm

Oh ya, they didn't do anything with Oram being "a man of faith".

Like it doesn't influence his character or actions whatsoever.
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Postby light rail coyote » Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:32 pm

giant_turtle wrote:Jesus they must've shown that shot of the severed head floating in the fountain 5 fuckin times.


this was like a sideshow bob stepping on the rakes thing for me.
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Postby Rainbow Battle Kid » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:08 am

so i still didn't see this, but i recently saw the Fassbender Macbeth and loved the music, and looked the guy up and I guess he did the score for this? was it any good?
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