tell me why mutations is a better record than sea change

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Postby Ersaph » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:52 pm

The Golden Age, Lost Cause, End of the Road etc. are so insanely trite lyrically and melodically that I haven't forgotten them since I last heard them in like 2003 or whenever
And I feel like this year is really about, just the year of realizing stuff.
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Postby chairkicker » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:54 pm

so you'd rather listen to the trite pastiche of "tropicalia"?

"the golden age" is far better alt country than anything he was doing on mutations
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Postby spix et chicho » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:54 pm

Midnite Vultures is his best record obviously
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Postby Grumby » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:56 pm

spix et chicho wrote:Midnite Vultures is his best record obviously


is this the one that was loaded onto windows media player when you went on the school computer
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Postby spix et chicho » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:01 pm

Grumby wrote:
spix et chicho wrote:Midnite Vultures is his best record obviously


is this the one that was loaded onto windows media player when you went on the school computer


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Postby sympathy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:03 pm

Midnite vultures fucking sucks
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Postby sympathy » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:04 pm

Its like hungover basement jaxx threw up all over becks worst tendencies
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Postby Ersaph » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:05 pm

I actually would rather listen to any song on Mutations over any song on Sea Change.

Your mileage may vary.
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Postby Grumby » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:10 pm

i remember that. school computer, i think it was like an in open house so there were older students milling around who were in pre-highschool. and this girl was like "i love this album" as a computer booted up and that song played

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Postby chairkicker » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:11 pm

i don't fucking get it
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Postby jewels » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:16 pm

chairkicker wrote:so you'd rather listen to the trite pastiche of "tropicalia"?

"the golden age" is far better alt country than anything he was doing on mutations


complaining about pastiche with Beck seems weird.
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Postby bluemovers » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:45 pm

mutations is incredible. sea change is great.
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Postby buriedinspace » Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:56 pm

jewels wrote:
chairkicker wrote:so you'd rather listen to the trite pastiche of "tropicalia"?

"the golden age" is far better alt country than anything he was doing on mutations


complaining about pastiche with Beck seems weird.


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Postby The Sunken Place » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:26 pm

Kwisatz Haderach wrote:Does he have one that sounds look good dancy pop?


Midnight Vultures is the best dancey pop. I over-listened to it in the aughts and it no longer has any appeal to me now, unfortunately
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Postby blurst of times » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:35 pm

sea change has some good songs but it's overall too repetitive and i get sick of it after a few tracks

mutations is wayyyy more interesting both musically and lyrically
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Postby blurst of times » Sat Jul 07, 2018 8:35 pm

i generally prefer goofy/dance-y beck over folk-y/sad beck though, so my favorite albums of his are odelay and midnight vultures
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Postby brian dennehy fan » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:30 pm

i like sunday sun and little one way more than anything on mutations
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Postby chairkicker » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:34 pm

jewels wrote:
chairkicker wrote:so you'd rather listen to the trite pastiche of "tropicalia"?

"the golden age" is far better alt country than anything he was doing on mutations


complaining about pastiche with Beck seems weird.

not when it's the blandest pastiche i ever heard
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Postby Classic Dog Avatar » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:38 pm

sympathy wrote:Midnite vultures fucking sucks


Yeah
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Postby Classic Dog Avatar » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:39 pm

chairkicker wrote:
jewels wrote:
chairkicker wrote:so you'd rather listen to the trite pastiche of "tropicalia"?

"the golden age" is far better alt country than anything he was doing on mutations


complaining about pastiche with Beck seems weird.

not when it's the blandest pastiche i ever heard


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Postby Grumby » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:59 pm

early beck isn't pastiche to me and i think that's why i like it.
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Postby Grumby » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:06 pm

that sound he had running there for that period all culminated in odelay. even though that album isn't as edgy or "punk" or whatever. but it's still like.. a very pleasurable record and i like the production a lot
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Postby brent » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:23 pm

beck takes are always so hott
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Postby FourLegsGood » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:30 pm

Are there any good Beck songs after Sea Change? I have not listened to a single album since then but I liked pretty much everything up to that point.
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Postby Repo » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:37 pm

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people tried to EVISCERATE me last time i posted this but it’s def true


modern guilt rules, it's the only beck I ended up going back to
never got into midnite vultures, it was a huge let down for me when it came out and decided to forget about it asap
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Postby brent » Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:57 pm

FourLegsGood wrote:Are there any good Beck songs after Sea Change? I have not listened to a single album since then but I liked pretty much everything up to that point.

yes, but the batting average isn't too good
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Postby mego » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:01 pm

missed this thread!

i think the issue with seachange for me is there's no trace of the old beck. all his quirks and spark are gone.

all prior beck releases had a degree of pastiche but at least it still felt like beck. seachange is the sound of beck purging his old self in his music. ever since you hear him trying to get that spark back but it's gone. i can't find the article but i remember reading all the parallels to scientology in seachange and one of them was how Golden Age is supposed to be the act of reaching some high level of freedom from past demons. pity the demons are what made his music good.

i think how people feel about seachange depends on when they got into beck. when it came out i'd already spent a lot of time with stereo pathetic soul manure, one foot in the grave and a bunch of MP3s of his older stuff downloaded off napster. he was my favourite artist at the time. i've never felt more let down by an album ever.

mutations is good. Not his best but still great. the best beck album is One Foot in the Grave imo.
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Postby Ersaph » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:05 pm

I think I mentioned this but seeing Beck play an empty auditorium for a private Salesforce-sponsored concert was a hugely depressing experience

He looked and sounded like my dead grandmother and the crowd wasn't into it at all
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Postby mego » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:05 pm

this was beck's last good song (assuming it was written during the midnight vultures sessions)



Debra was really good but that was written during the Odelay sessions.

Midnite Vultures was a fun album but a step down from his previous work
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Postby mego » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:10 pm

Ersaph wrote:I think I mentioned this but seeing Beck play an empty auditorium for a private Salesforce-sponsored concert was a hugely depressing experience

He looked and sounded like my dead grandmother and the crowd wasn't into it at all


this experience matches how i felt trying really hard to get into Seachange for months while giving it a spin on my discman every morning for weeks
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