Hereditary (6/8)

Health insurance rip off lying FDA big bankers buying
Fake computer crashes dining
Cloning while they're multiplying
Fashion shoots with Beck and Hanson
Courtney Love, and Marilyn Manson
You're all fakes
Run to your mansions
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Postby milknight » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:09 am

last 30 was still p scary but just not as like emotionally draining as the rest of the movid
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Postby RIXX » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:13 am

it's incredible how contorted toni collette could make her face in this

a lot of times her scared face was actually rly scary itself

i hope she gets an oscar nod
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Postby RIXX » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:15 am

looks like a24 is making the push already

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Postby mellowgold » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:29 am

wimbledon, strawberries, bubbles, please protect me. happy midsumma, hope you spend it in your heart, everyone is there. bitch.
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Postby Franco » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:32 am

Needs to happen
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Postby G_S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:24 am

good to see. she deserves everything for this movie. it feels like hers more than anyone else's.
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Postby feaxfang » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:55 am

Those passenger seat car shots of her driving around were sooo unsettling to me. I can't stop thinking about her performance in this.
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Postby nautical hyperblast » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:12 pm

oh cool ari aster is two years younger than i am. :(
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Postby mellowgold » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:17 pm

Presenting Ari Aster's Top 10 Movies of all time, which are actually 25 movies
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Postby nautical hyperblast » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:28 pm

lol yeah, lot of 'ties'.
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Postby G_S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:38 pm

he just ranked directors

now that I think about it this movie was this boy's love letter to his Criterion Collection
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Postby G_S » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:52 pm

that came off snide. I liked the movie a lot but it was very much a film bro's first film that was elevated to something special by Collette
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Postby Rumpleforeskin » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:22 pm

No, it's a valid criticism. I am by no means a film buff or someone that tries to find nods or homages to other films or directors in films, but I couldn't help but get kinda hit over the head with the moments where it was like oh, this is the Shining. Rosemary's Baby. Umm, Donnie Darko, etc. But still enjoyed it immensely. Agree that this could have been really mediocre w/o Toni Collette's performance tho.
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Postby Ersaph » Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:25 pm

Loved ToniC in this, but the thing as a whole doesn't add up to much for me. It's the same ending I've seen in so many movies so many times before, it was actually a drag that the movie tipped its hand so early into where it was going.

But Toni Collette was perfection and deserves many awards.
And I feel like this year is really about, just the year of realizing stuff.
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Postby mellowgold » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:50 pm

Help

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Postby john plainman » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:54 pm

frick i forgot about that sick drawing
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Postby Franco » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:00 pm

G_S wrote:he just ranked directors

now that I think about it this movie was this boy's love letter to his Criterion Collection


I saw this at Alamo and he did a lil featurette beforehand in which he basically just pointed to Don't Look Now and, more generally, Peter Greenaway, as his specific touchstones
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Postby ratbags » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:22 pm

Did anyone else think that dinner Gabriel Byrne whipped up looked pretty tasty
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Postby Franco » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:26 pm

Very true ratbags. And here I am still thinking that was a shitty character with nothing going on. My dude was clearly an expert on roasting chicken.
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Postby kid_chameleon » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:26 pm

He did drink a bit and have a car sob.
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Postby Franco » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:44 pm

I’d like to be the one that points out that my criticisms of Gabriel Byrne’s father role in this have been shortsighted and ignorant considering the fact that there are a literal 1,000+ movies in which the wife/mother are quiet shell-like characters.
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Postby ratbags » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:46 pm

i actually really liked the Steve character. he just seemed so fed up, like he had reached his breaking point years prior and just locked it up inside and drank and chopped carrots and fell asleep in his chair
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Postby ratbags » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:47 pm

like the first time we see him he's just frustrated, just like completely over this whole thing
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Postby ratbags » Thu Jun 14, 2018 9:48 pm

but yeah that dinner looked great and so much salad too. i wonder what kind of dressing he tossed on there.
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Postby Franco » Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:02 pm

There was a whole article on that. Apparently it was just a simple italian vin w balsamic and oregano
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Postby tricksforchips » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:45 am

Yeah I loved this movie. Had a good time chatting about it afterwards as well as to whether this was all pre-determined or if they took advantage of the accident. Also some really amazing horrific imagery.

Haven't been that shocked in a film in a long time when Charlie gets decapitated.Toggle Spoiler The following few scenes where Toni C is just screaming pretty well sums up the tone of the film. So intense and dreadful.
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Postby RIXX » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:53 am

tricksforchips wrote:Yeah I loved this movie. Had a good time chatting about it afterwards as well as to whether this was all pre-determined or if they took advantage of the accident. Also some really amazing horrific imagery.


it was pre-determined. as mentioned upthread, the pole had a sigil of paimon etched into it

but I am curious about the extent of Annie's involvement. she is obviously fighting against the family sacrifice, but as Peter points out, she is the one that forcefully pushes Charlie towards the party against her wishes and sets everything in motionToggle Spoiler
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Postby tricksforchips » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:56 am

But that's where I'm thinking that there's a lot that has to be left up to chance (brother takes the Charlie into the room at the party instead of telling her to have cake, the mom folds and lets Charlie to stay at home, the cake doesn't have nuts) -- unless all of these sigils are pushing everyone to act in a certain way regardless of the scenario that was presented.
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Postby Kevin McCallister » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:16 pm

john plainman wrote:
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mondays wrote:had a great time watching this but the entire time i couldn't help but think it has little to no rewatch value and it's going to age terribly


i woke up this morning immediately thinking about this movie, which i never do for anything. i think its going to age really well and tbh i'd love to see it again! the acting is just so insanely strong.


I want to see it again jsut because I have a feeling the mythology of the ending was hinted at in clues along the way in plain sight
even the intro funeral scene where annie talks about her mom having private friends, private rituals, etc
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charlie telling her mother; "grandma wanted me to be a boy", the brother who committed suicide because ellen was "trying to put people inside him".

one thing i wonder about, is how much annie knew, either consciously or repressed? she says her mother had dissociative identity disorder, but i feel like she was either projecting her own diagnosis or they shared it, as is their heredity
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IMO she does everything she can to not confront this reality while fooling herself into thinking she has. She describes her miniatures as objective and natural observation, ridding it of emotion and dismissing her role in the events. I loved how the characters compartmentalize their anger and sadness. Like ratbags said, the father quietly chops away and drinks at work. The son tries to act as if nothing happened and goes to bed. They repress and blow up and repress some more.
The way Charlie picks up her mom's habits is really interesting. It doesn't seem to be a method of compartmentalizing because there is little true emotion there to compartmentalize, it's just a ritual of creating dolls and miniatures. If she didn't have a King of Hell inside of her she would grow up to be an even emptier form of her mother.Toggle Spoiler
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