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Postby grayfox » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:01 pm

Jz I had a kid last year and it made it so hard to be consistent. Goodbye marathons and 100 mpw. But right now I don't miss it. Enjoying speed and trying more 5ks.
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Postby brittle » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:22 pm

so glad i reconciled with fitness time being drastically cut before i had a kid.

also bought a mountain bike for days when i had more time than necessary for running, but still not enough time for road bikes.

i'm 30 lbs heavier, but i'm a faster runner than ever and (unless i gotta go longer than 50 miles or up lots of hills) i'm just as fast on the bikes
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Postby conductor » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:07 pm

My goals...

-Run 1500 miles
-3:20 marathon
-19:59 5k

Each of those things individually stresses me out, but heck I'm gonna do it.
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Tue Jan 09, 2018 8:56 pm

grayfox, don't take this the wrong way, but I never understood why you were running so much volume. 100mpw takes a *lot* of physical and mental effort, and frankly just time. I know everyone responds differently but the cost/benefit is out of whack.

Looking at your goals, there's no reason why they shouldn't be achievable on an upper bound of 40-50mpw. You just need to do a bunch more threshold work.
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Postby grayfox » Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:45 pm

That was 2 years ago when I was focusing on the marathon, during the 5 or so peak weeks, and aiming for 245. It's what my coach wanted me doing. I'm no where near that now and have left that coach. New one wants me around 55-60 a week and we are focusing on a lot of shorter intervals with low rest.

Now my typical week is 7-8 easy most days. Tuesday intervals. Friday tempo or longer fartiek. 12ish Sunday. All my goals are short distances now. Just don't have the time or desire to put in mileage to do longer races. It did genuinely wear me out mentally for the 2 cuvkes I did it.

Plan now is to get faster at shorter stuff and stretch later when I have time
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:22 pm

cool, that's a lot more sensible. you can get *super* fit doing consistent moderate mileage and a couple threshold workouts a week. I'd argue fitter than with high miles since you recover better and have more energy.

and you can run a pretty damn good marathon off the program you describe. the modification is to lengthen your long runs and make them your second weekly workout (e.g. a long marathon-pace tempo in the middle). So you do some intervals on Wed and then a good long run workout on Saturday or whatever. Training runs and recovery the rest of the time.
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Postby grayfox » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:51 am

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Postby based dana scully » Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:21 pm

Jefferson Zeppelin wrote:cool, that's a lot more sensible. you can get *super* fit doing consistent moderate mileage and a couple threshold workouts a week. I'd argue fitter than with high miles since you recover better and have more energy.

and you can run a pretty damn good marathon off the program you describe. the modification is to lengthen your long runs and make them your second weekly workout (e.g. a long marathon-pace tempo in the middle). So you do some intervals on Wed and then a good long run workout on Saturday or whatever. Training runs and recovery the rest of the time.


i'm a big fan of the wednesday workout and saturday long run with some 'work' thrown in! feels a lot better than doing the tuesday-thursday workouts that are typical of most marathon training plans.
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:40 am

seriously. who has time to run hard three times a week?

standard pattern : do 4-6 miles of interval work on Wed with a normal workout / cooldown, then a nice long run on Saturday. I *really* enjoyed doing 18 milers with 8-10 miles in the middle at marathon pace or faster, and got super strong from them. A real staple workout.

The most memorable long run workout I've been a part of went as follows:
- 3 mi warmup
- 4 mi tempo @ threshold
- 12 miles steady training run
- 4 x mile at faster than threshold (I only did one)
- 2 mile cooldown

That was a loooong day
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:41 am

One workout a week + one hard long run is also a very sustainable way to get quite fit even if you have a busy schedule.
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Postby Jefferson Zeppelin » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:43 am

the BAA training plans follow the 1x workout, 1x long-run-workout model

they are some of the best serious marathon plans for motivated normal people that I've seen.
http://www.baa.org/races/boston-maratho ... -plan.aspx
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Postby ouroboros » Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:13 pm

Jefferson Zeppelin wrote:One workout a week + one hard long run is also a very sustainable way to get quite fit even if you have a busy schedule.


Love the Wednesday workouts. Good way to hit hump day.
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Postby Quixotic » Sun Jan 21, 2018 12:37 pm

finally some progress. finally hit 1min run - 1min walk (from 1min run - 5min walk). now time to start upping the running time. fingers crossed it wasn't a one-off
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Postby goldsoundz » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:09 pm

haha yesss, i went for a 1.25 mile jog yesterday. it's a start!
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Postby bear » Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:42 pm

my best run yet!
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Postby Quixotic » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:50 pm

sideways picture much?
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Postby bear » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:04 pm

ya I dunno it did that automatically
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Postby Hal Jordan » Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:43 pm

conGRATS, BEAR
well that was intense
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Postby Quixotic » Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:14 pm

well, congrats bear and goldsoundz! join strava
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Postby grayfox » Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:11 pm

Just pm me or dana Scully when you join Strava so we can approve you.
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Postby bear » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:17 pm

is there a fitness tracker bracelet that works with runkeeper/strave that doesn't require me to bring my phone on a run? (are they all like that)? is there one that can also play music?
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Postby Quixotic » Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:08 pm

bear wrote:is there a fitness tracker bracelet that works with runkeeper/strave that doesn't require me to bring my phone on a run? (are they all like that)? is there one that can also play music?


i dont know about the fitbit style trackers (though i suspect they work without your phone for strava/runkeeper but not music), but any of the running watches from garmin, polar, suunto, etc all will track lots of info (GPS, heart rate, steps, elevation) without your phone. I mostly don't bring my phone but I use an ipod touch for music.
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Postby Quixotic » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:11 pm

Has anyone gone from mid to toe-striking in their stride? I think I have, possibly because of this knee injury. Over the past few runs my calves have gotten really sore over just doing 30 minute runs. I guess its not a bad thing, but my calves have never been so tired.
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Postby benghost » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:35 pm

bear wrote:is there a fitness tracker bracelet that works with runkeeper/strave that doesn't require me to bring my phone on a run? (are they all like that)? is there one that can also play music?



what you're looking for is Pono Fitness by Neil Young
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Postby Damien Amadeus MetalWind » Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:59 pm

I’m doing a 5K at the beginning of March. I’m slow as molasses and have been working up to it on and off for 2 years but it’s a start! I’ve never been able to run so this is huge for me.
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Postby bear » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:21 pm

benghost wrote:
bear wrote:is there a fitness tracker bracelet that works with runkeeper/strave that doesn't require me to bring my phone on a run? (are they all like that)? is there one that can also play music?



what you're looking for is Pono Fitness by Neil Young

purchased, thank you
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Postby ouroboros » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:29 pm

Quixotic wrote:Has anyone gone from mid to toe-striking in their stride? I think I have, possibly because of this knee injury. Over the past few runs my calves have gotten really sore over just doing 30 minute runs. I guess its not a bad thing, but my calves have never been so tired.


huge calves or go home
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Postby conductor » Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:31 pm

bear wrote:
benghost wrote:
bear wrote:is there a fitness tracker bracelet that works with runkeeper/strave that doesn't require me to bring my phone on a run? (are they all like that)? is there one that can also play music?



what you're looking for is Pono Fitness by Neil Young

purchased, thank you

I've heard of Long May You Run but this is ridiculous!
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Postby Quixotic » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:31 pm

posting because i'm finally on the mend. slowly upping the distance and finally feeling the effects of the PT since october after a few failed starts.
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Postby jbiz » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:13 pm

bear wrote:is there a fitness tracker bracelet that works with runkeeper/strave that doesn't require me to bring my phone on a run? (are they all like that)? is there one that can also play music?

apple watch?
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